Maybe he heard (or thought he hears) someone coming. They called a person they believed was an accomplice and just said, “we need you to come in for an interview. Is the killer destroying or somehow tampering with the phone?These are actions that determine who killer can be. MP’s black and white shoes from a distance. Revision from 1 year agoGo to page history. Family still hopeful for an arrest four years after Delphi murders News. There was an earlier thread on the Delphi murders (it was gilded, I believe, I'll try to find it and link it) in which someone linked to Imgur pictures of text messages between someone on the the search party and someone asking them questions. Typical introduction done, so I'm jumping into the topic. This is generally the first theory the mind goes to, simply because of the sighting of the distressed woman on the bridge and then the discovery of Alisha's body. Rumors and Speculation Around the Delphi Murder Case Of course, the lack of confirmed details about the circumstances of the girls’ murders has only fueled more obsessive speculation from crime-watchers on sites like Reddit, where users on at least one Delphi-dedicated board with 8,400 subscribers regularly share their theories, speculations and suspicions. The man in the photo wears a navy blue jacket and a distinctive hat. Given the recent press conference I think they know who did it but lack the final bit of evidence to charge and convict. And had a feeling something may not be right. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Did he follow the girls for a long period of time? I'm not sure why only specific states are allowed to use it, but I'm guessing it has to do with surveillance laws or whatnot. When the girls did not come back for pickup at 5:30 p.m., their parents reported them missing. At 1:35 p.m. on Monday, February 13, 2017, 13-year-old Abigail J. Join. I don't know. There was an earlier thread on the Delphi murders (it was gilded, I believe, I'll try to find it and link it) in which someone linked to Imgur pictures of text messages between someone on the the search party and someone asking them questions. I doubt he had any prior knowledge of either of them. Maybe the killer knew them, but they rather did not know him (if it was opposite, police would have his name or occupation recorded, therefore case would be solved already, as I assume video or audio files are somewhat longer - maybe not covering the whole incident, but some portion of it, and Libby was already feeling she should film him so why not speak who he is). Crime. Abbie walked across the bridge. as a bulge in the pocket or phone could fall off the pocket during struggle). by Anonymous: reply 50: Last Saturday at 2:22 PM: The murderer was or is definitely local or at least knew the trail. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. You should check it out. RTV6 - Delphi Daughters (23:33) Facebook link. If he did, he should know to take their phone/phones with him to cover his tracks. More telling about who killer is or is not, is second matter. Investigators stated that this sketch was compiled by multiple witnesses. Replies analysing and speculating over the … Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Abigail_Williams_and_Liberty_German. What do You think? Smartphones should have an emergency function that you can quickly access that immediately starts recording and uploading to a secure cloud that authorities can access. DELPHI MURDER INVESTIGATION FEATURES NEW SKETCH. Use the discussion thread for shorter posts. NBC2 ... he has been a major player in online chat boards like Reddit. Young Neighbor of Possible Suspect in Delphi Murders Says He Creeped Her Out. Next thing you know the accomplice and suspect are having a full on convo about what story they will give the police and about what the evidence could be. "Somebody that commits a horrific crime like this against two little girls probably has shown signs of violence in the past. My galaxy s7 has it. – Four years ago, on February 13, Abby Williams and Libby German were walking on the Delphi Historic Trail and never came home. Maybe is short sighted. Show Victimology, Ep The Delphi Murders: Interview with Kelsi German - May 6, 2020 February 2017 forever changed the town of Delphi, Indiana when Libby German and Abby Williams went missing and ultimately were found deceased. Alot goes on behind the scenes that the public knows nothing about. Maybe if you are in such place because you are meeting with someone for the first time after making a contact online and you don't feel confident what you've got yourself into? First of all, there must be a reason why Libby decided to film the approaching man. A massive search ensued but ultimately ended in the discovery of the girls’ bodies about 1/2 a mile from the bridge where they had begun their winter walk 24 hours later. Secondly, and it may be in contrary to the previous point or it may be parallell with it. Audio from the video led investigators to believe that the man in the video did murder the teens. Police said they were looking for someone wearing black tennis shoes with a white stripe. Google The Delphi murders/reddit/images. Maybe the new sketch isn’t the killer but someone who knows the killer that the cops want to turn up the heat on. They do. Press J to jump to the feed. But first things first. 911 and camera/video. So the main point for this part of my reasoning is 'if the killer tries to tamper with the phone in some way (after acknowledging it's existence) or not'?And after that, the final point is: If not, why? Unless the killer had an accomplice or told someone he lives with about it (which I would hope one would turn someone in if they told them they brutally murdered two girls), bugging the house is useless. The manner of death has never been revealed. It’s called “tickling the wire”. Do you think BG visits our subreddit? His rationality was switched off. I clicked the power button like 3 or 5 times then it would take 5 pictures, 30 seconds of audio, and send it to my emergency contacts. Authorities conducted autopsies on the bodies the following day as well as two days following the murders. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail J. I have a pretty good idea of what probably happened up until the girls reached the creek. And some strong assumptions. The first is a grainy photo of a man walking towards the girls along one of the trails. He could ignore it or he could try to tamper with it (or he could really not notice it). Main points still are: Is the killer aware of existence of the phone? About Delphi Murders & Cover Up. (for me it is more likely that he is, because he got at least two 'opportunities' to acknowledge that: first at the bridge, seeing girls playing with the phone [unless he is short sighted], second at the crime seen [even if phone was concealed, I imagine You can notice something bulging in the pocket, unless the pocket was loose, like blouse pocket in contrary of jeans pocket]). I accidentally triggered it a few times but yeah I would see that should be standard. Well worth a watch. And if so, do we know where it was found? Public Evidence Of The Delphi Murders. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. To conclude this part, the theory that the girls weren't there to meet somebody and did not know their killer seems more plausible for me. Worked like a fucking charm. June 26, 2019 at 9:05 AM Suspect Photo/Sketch Timeline of Events Audio Recording. Just as an example, this tactic was used in the Daniel morcombe case(a boy kidnapped and murdered while he was waiting for a bus) here in Australia. But this is how I intended it to be. Because of it they were aware and cautious. r/UnresolvedMysteries: A subreddit dedicated to the unresolved mysteries of the world. This video is unavailable because we were unable to load a … This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. Unofficially there are some rumours suggesting killer acted in the way that get him to close proximity to the girls after their death, so he had the opportunity to see the phone then (ie. At that point, Libby's phone is most likely hidden in her pocket, still recording sounds. The person on the search party said that the murderer was way more violent towards Libby than he was to Abby, and that the violence seemed personal. Brief Chronology of the Delphi Murders, 2-13 to 2-14, Delphi, Indiana. Did she was that cunning not to let him see that? “It can’t be fingerprints because I wore gloves” type shit lol. Thanks for pointing out about the possibility/fact that recordings were recovered from the cloud. See More Photos. Lack of his resemblance to the original sketch gave him convicition he won't be apprehended and built his confidence. The man on the bridge is currently the suspect wanted in the murders of the Delphi teens. There was an earlier thread on the Delphi murders (it was gilded, I believe, I'll try to find it and link it) in which someone linked to Imgur pictures of text messages between someone on the the search party and someone asking them questions. You can consider these few observations as a look into the case of the new person, as I heard about it previously, though recent press conference is what me launched into it for good. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. Crimecon - The Delphi Murders: The Families Speak (56:55) Vimeo Link. For me, the most incredible fact about Delphi murders case is existence of the recording of the suspect and what it tells us about him. Theories About the Murder. Hit the power button twice in quick succession. Shemar Dewitt (Solo Watts) Contact Information. RTV6 - The Untold Story of Abby and Libby (20:10) YouTube link. True Crime Daily talks to HLN / DTH Crew ahead of their broadcast. At 1:35 p.m. on Monday, February 13, 2017, 13-year-old Abigail J. Sign Up. Especially for phones used by kids under 18. The basic fact I don't know is if files were deleted by the killer and later recovered by the police or were avaliable for law enforcement from beginning (after getting access to the phone). Posts Wiki Submit a Tip Who is BG, DN, etc? We have some important new evidence (wasn’t true at all)”. Even if he had no idea he was being recorded, he should at least know the girls are playing with phone, taking pictures of each other. Delphi Murders & Cover Up is on Facebook. I'm not sure if it's against the rules to link to leaked texts, so I'm not going to go into detail about what the texts say until I find out, but they shouldn't be that hard to find. Since the new sketch was released at the end of April, the Indiana State Police have received more than 3,000 new tips in the case, local station RTV6 reports.. The walkway they crossed was pretty damaged and he must have had prior experience of walking it, as he crossed it pretty quickly. Tooth Up Dental. Favorites. There, they were accosted by a strange man - who they managed to capture in both video and audio. Investigators in Delphi are requesting the DNA and autopsy results of 55-year-old Paul Etter. There are three key pieces of evidence that have been released by authorities. But it is the only thing I can think of, that would explain he would not notice the girls have phone. They vanished from the Delphi Historic Trails, where they'd been out hiking on a day off from school. Bridge guy is approaching girls. I have two photos of MP wearing black tennis shoes with a white stripe. I don’t think the killer’s motivation is elusive. Megyn Kelly Today show (14:25) - Today Website might be geo-blocked. If that was a point of their actions. Google The Delphi murders/reddit/images. There, they were accosted by a strange man - who they managed to capture in both video and audio. Wow, that would be great if that’s the case! The authorities have been purposeful in not disclosing much information about the Delphi Murders. I hope I am clear in my reasoning. DELPHI, Ind. This information also squares with the press conference done recently in which the police chief says that the perpetrator is familiar with Delphi. Cynical attitudes toward the second Delphi sketch’s relevance could be delaying progress. And if the phone was found on the girls or somewhere else. I rushed thorugh basic facts to gather needed information, but I can be wrong at some points or don't know everything, so I hope for your clarifications. Some suspects are known for many years but without proper evidence they can't do anything. If he was, he would take care of the phone knowing he could have been recorded. As I understand there is no official description of the scene and how were the bodies when found. 34.7k members in the DelphiMurders community. Although I regard this man as innocent, I still have no explanation for these marks. Is that sufficient enough for one to start recording such a person? I feel like the location of shoes/clothing could be important in better understanding what happened (and who BG is). The walkway they crossed was pretty damaged and he must have had prior experience of walking it, as he crossed it pretty quickly. Maybe he didn't cover his actions (phone) because he was in a hurry. I just wanted to point out that there is a name for it in the US. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqsNaZyFte0&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=TrueCrimeDaily. I believe though he was aware of girls having phone and using it. Many possibilities, but more or less directly, all of them really leads to the same two big things. I mentioned this to my step-dad yesterday (he has recently retired from the police in the UK) and he said it was a smart tactic. DELPHI, IN – It was Valentine's Day, 2017, when the corpses of two young teen girls, Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams, were found under a train bridge. All new threads are subject to moderator review before being published. Crime 12:38 PM PDT, July 23, 2019 - Inside Edition Staff . Investigators believe the man depicted in the sketch either lives, works or spends significant time near the Delphi community where the murders occurred in February 2017 and have urged area residents to consider whether it may be someone they know. Maybe he lost control and let the fear to slip in. He is spending some time with them. Killer was not tech savvy and/or was not experienced in how to conduct a crime (was likely his first murder). Murders. by Anonymous: reply 50: Last Saturday at 2:22 PM: The murderer was or is definitely local or at least knew the trail. My previous phones have had this on the lock screen too. With the info they've released they havent gotten the tip but claim they need it. by: Kelly Reinke. They would bug suspects' properties and then leak information so the suspects would then talk about it in the comfort of their own homes and it proved successful. I imagine he is focused alternately on the girls and where he puts his foot. 20/20 - Who Killed Liberty German & Abigail Williams (1:28:58) YouTube link. Regardless of the reason, him being sloppy (because I inddeed believe he was sloppy) tells me he was inexperienced at the time of murders. Does he know them personally? More probably because you are already holding a phone and you are a smart girl. It is more possible that culprit was aware of existence of the phone either seeing it on the bridge or after the struggle, before killings than he wasn't. Replies analysing and speculating over the mystery and possible explanations are encouraged. After much consideration, I am making this post to state my opinion that both of these men are innocent of the murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. Currently my phone has the option with one click without unlocking it to open the camera/video, call 911, or talk to google. I believe that was reaveled that girls were talking of the man as a creeper or being strange. If he sees the phone and does nothing, he is not aware of what modern technology can do. Once they're there, everything gets... messy? Why recordings still exist after attack. "Abby" Williams and 14-year-old Liberty Rose Lynn "Libby" German were dropped off by German's older sister, Kelsi German, on County Road 300 North, west of the Hoosier Heartland Highway.The girls were hiking on the Monon High Bridge over Deer Creek, among woodland in remote Deer Creek Township. (both of these leading to him not being tech savvy or/and acting under impulse/being inexperienced and clumsy/killing for the first time). On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered … Their bodies were found about a half mile away from the hiking trail. Did he not seen Libby taking photos of him? I'd be nervous that instead of stopping right before real shit hit the fan that the perp would say fuck it and kill you anyway knowing they'll be caught regardless. And I am not talking what was recorded in terms of murderer's looks, voice and behavior, but rather about the fact the recording itself still exists after attacks. Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were killed on Feb. 13, 2017. Libby was already at the end. I might be misunderstanding what you said because it really wouldn’t make sense unless cases of two or more perps. If he simply deletes files, he does not know they could be easily recovered. Youngs Headsup. 'Epitome of evil': Delphi double murder still a mystery 3 years later. Of course, the lack of confirmed details about the circumstances of the girls’ murders has only fueled more obsessive speculation from crime-watchers on sites like Reddit, where users on at least one Delphi-dedicated board with 8,400 subscribers regularly share … Log In. "Abby" Williams and 14-year-old Liberty Rose Lynn "Libby" German were dropped off by German's older sister, Kelsi German, on County Road 300 North, west of the Hoosier Heartland Highway.The girls were hiking on the Monon High Bridge over Deer Creek, among woodland in remote Deer Creek Township. They two girls dropped off, started hiking, and at some point, BG or one of his pals started following them. If you dont release more but need that one tip...doesnt that contradict itself? Actually, the ACLU developed an app that does specifically that, depending on what state you live in. He seems like an opportunistic predator who saw two young girls unaccompanied by an adult and then pounced. Gwendolyn threw Alisha over the bridge and then killed herself in a murder-suicide. The Delphi Murders On February 13th, 2017, two girls from small-town Delphi, Indiana decided to take a stroll along one of the region’s historic trails. It was then stated that investigators believed the suspect walked a great distance from the area. You bug a suspects house or phone and then you do shit to shake them up and listen to see if they talk about it. Suspect in Delphi Snapchat Murders [Wanted Poster] By: Christine Colby Related To: Abductions. (don't know about it's existence / don't suspect it may be a proof / don't have time to think about it or his logic is switched off), If yes, was it succesful or not? Maybe yes, that's one of the theory, but then LE surely must imply that the killer really is, as I have said it, not very tech savvy. Footage from the RTV6 Web site from helicopter 2/14/17 http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/map-where-the-two-bodies-were-found-near-delphi-indiana Scratches on MP’s arm seen soon after the crime. … But as I am assuming he had opportunities to know he may be recorded, when he could not gain access to it, rational thing to do would be to destroy a phone and take what's left with you. UNLESS he is short sighted. However, our #1 source for this piece was meticulously researched and referenced timeline posted on Reddit.com. The Delphi Murders On February 13th, 2017, two girls from small-town Delphi, Indiana decided to take a stroll along one of the region’s historic trails. The Delphi and Evansdale Murders May 13, 2019 Tags: delphi , evansdale , indiana , iowa , murder , unsolved Two sets of murders-states a part- have similarities but are also very different. A suspect sketch was released in July of 2017. — It’s been three years since the murders of 13-year-old Abigail Williams and 14-year-old Liberty German in Delphi, Indiana. my first reddit post ever, so please be kind. It's meant for recording police and the like. or. Edit to add: just an interesting article that shows the length LE will go through to catch a killer and get a conviction. No Pages to show. I will share … Indiana State Police discuss the 'new direction' they plan on taking to find the suspect of the Delphi murders during a news conference. That makes the whole case really unique. Submissions should outline a mystery and provide a link to a more detailed review of the case such as a Wiki article or news report. If he was professional or had it all planned - leaving phone seems too big oversight for me. 12:31 PM PDT, May 15, 2019 - Inside Edition Staff. Details of those autopsies remain undisclosed. They would bug suspects' properties and then leak information so the suspects would then talk about it in the comfort of their own homes and it proved successful. He cornered them at the … Likely it was his first. https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-sting-that-caught-daniel-s-killer. My point is, IF the phone was still with the girls (Libby did not throw it away at some point during their walk), killer most likely would notice it. I hope I didn't forget about anything important. No new info but we need that tip. He closed the gap with them very fast. MP wore a watch on his left wrist. He could succeed, or he could not be able to access it. Two of these were found at the murder scene. They vanished from the Delphi Historic Trails, where they'd been out hiking on a day off from school. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the UnresolvedMysteries community, Continue browsing in r/UnresolvedMysteries. My point is, phone is something palpable, cloud is secondary to that. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Revised by . Maybe. OR maybe he is a madman and whole logic above was a waste of time. I have posted before on this... am really curious as to why they were filming video of him walking towards them. Was her other shoe ever found? David, the person involved in the leaked text messages, claimed that the girls died from stabbing. The case referred to as the Delphi murders involves the killing of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, who were found dead on Valentine’s Day 2017. He’s not just going to sit in his house alone and talk out loud to himself about the crime. An investigation began on February 13, 2017 when fami… He surely didn't take it away with him. 'Mindhunter' John Douglas Offers Insight Into Delphi Murders. The names of MP and CP have been commonly bandied about among both locals and non-locals as possible suspects in the Delphi Murders. That is also why I don't believe he groomed girls online. But that sounds like a stretch for me. As I understand and assume, the recording is a lot more longer than stills, videos and audio that was released to the public. Maybe? Would be like pulling a gun on somebody about to commit a crime if they knew their voice/image/crime was already being sent to police. It was a crime of opportunity in terms of Libby and Abby were not specific targets. I sense they want a slam dunk when the reality is an individual who committed a double murder of two young women, seemingly without motive, is probably sitting in class right … Girls most likely did not know who their killer was. Photos +49. Special Thanks To John KellyJohn Kelly Profiler - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP388QXTfAXqHFlEkh127wQ It is new information for me. Others With a Similar Name. During/after the crime You are rather not thinking 'I leave the phone alone even if there can be something incriminating me, because they for sure already uploaded something to the cloud, so destroying phone is pointless'. The Delphi murders have been by far the most popular articles on Truecrimeguy.com and have generated hundreds of comments, thoughts, theories, and ideas on the Delphi articles that I’ve published so far. Maybe, but really hard to tell. Yet, years later, their murders remain unsolved… and this strange man remains unidentified… "Abby" Williams and Liberty Rose Lynn "Libby" German were discovered on a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. Confusing? I agree though that with today's technology we should have some sort of function on phones that will automatically record and timestamp the phones exact location along with recording audio or video for id purposes. Delphi Murders r/ DelphiMurders. We know that one of Libby's shoes was found on the south side of the creek. As I am aware it is very, very rare thing to do for victims to film their oppressor. That is what should be asked to the sheriff...how do you want to have that both ways? One of my old phones had an option to do that. As the Delphi murders are relatively recent and unsolved, as of now there are no books that we can recommend on the subject. What a disturbing read about a murder I'd never heard of before. To connect with Delphi Murders & Cover Up, sign up for Facebook today. Libby was alarmed and posted to her friends that some scary man was following them. Or maybe I'm giving too much credit to the fact that killer knew about the phone. Their bodies were found about a half mile away from the hiking trail. The photo appeared on Libby’s smartphone. Of audio, and sends them to a emergency contact (my partner in my case). Other. Murders. On February 13, 2017 he was a novice. Please feel free to like, share and subscribe. I saw a 48 hrs where the police used this technique after bugging the suspects phone. The murders shook Delphi, a small town of 2,877 people set amid farm fields, about 60 miles northwest of Indianapolis. We consistently hear that they are one tip away. Firstly, I don't believe he was tech-savvy. Internet is literally everywhere and it would be strange for him not to follow threads like those. The purpose of this post is to announce my clearing of both MP and CP as POI’s. I understand this is a sensitive subject and want to raise awareness. Must have been very hard for you to go through this Lynn, but if the police can work with your description, the murderer should be easy to identify and hopefully they can find some forensic evidence to link him to the scene. Delphi Murders & Cover Up is on Facebook. I know police said recently he feels he is in power now, but I believe he wasn't like that at all during murders. The pair of eight… I believe most of You are familiar with the case, but here is it's wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Abigail_Williams_and_Liberty_German. Don't know if it's true, but believe I've heard somewhere the girls were interested in true crime. Posted: Feb 12, 2021 / 08:12 PM EST / Updated: Feb 12, 2021 / 08:12 PM EST. I've only ever set it off accidentally, it takes two pictures, records... 5 seconds? Special Thanks To John KellyJohn Kelly Profiler - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP388QXTfAXqHFlEkh127wQ Facebook gives people the power to … No info to show. LE must have known that someone will be mentioning that kind of theories, so whether suspect truly is not a technical/modern guy or that was a risky move from LE. Submissions should outline a mystery and provide a link to a more detailed review of the case such as a Wiki article or news report. A lot of ifs, maybes and possibilities here. MP’s lower right arm was badly scratched up right after the crime.
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